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PES 2016 Roster Update Apology and Statement

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A few days after the release of PES 2016’s messed up severely delayed data pack, Konami/the PES team has today come out with an official statement around the issue.

The message goes into a little bit of detail (not too much) about the problems and why they happened, but more importantly the team has apologised to PES fans around the world.

It’s an interesting read, especially in regards to how their update/data systems work, but (repeating myself here) it’s not how a modern video game company producing a sports game should work. Good to know they’re going to be working on fixing it though before anything else is released. Bad news, there’s no date for a potential fix.

Anyway, the statement it full…

Hi PES Fans,

There has been an issue with the latest Data Pack released October 29th, and we wanted to reach out to our fans to let you know just how we’re dealing with this current situation.

Currently  the roster update for offline play which impacts Master League, competitions and edit mode is not complete, missing the final few days of transfers. The online modes, such as ranked matches, myClub and exhibition mode using Live Updates are up to date, as they were from October 2nd – and they remain unaffected.

We’ve received many questions regarding why offline and online are unique, and right now I wanted to explain that the systems being used for online updates are separated from offline due to the process we need to go through, with patch data including lists that needs to be checked internally and externally and may take weeks before the distribution.

The roster issue is a priority for us to correct ASAP, but will take some weeks unfortunately. We had planned a second Data Pack for end of November which was set to include a new stadium for PS4 and Xbox One, the Maracana. However, we will not release this Data Pack without including a fix for the offline roster issue.

Right now we have removed the planned Data Pack from our schedule so we can implement the fix required. We will then go through the process to get it out as soon as possible. We’ll update the fans on our official social channels as soon as we have information on this.

The extra time needed will also be used to add more content into the game that wasn’t planned at this stage, such as new kits and boots, as well as any other content the time allows. We’ll provide a list of extra content once set. We appreciate this doesn’t suddenly make this situation better, but we do want to show desire to make good on the situation for the fans.

We also want to take the opportunity to sincerely apologise to those fans affected by this issue. It’s frustrating for the fans, and for the team making the game. We assure everyone that we have learnt from this situation, and confirm designs to improve situations like these are currently being considered for future products.

Thanks for your continued support, and sorry once again,

PES Team

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Giovanni
Giovanni
4 years ago

Did they just make the situation worse by removing the end of November update and giving no deadline to fix this ? do we really need extra kits when the community is filled with them ? or freaking boots we only see during replay !!! update the stats & the… Read more »

Mathieu
Mathieu
4 years ago
Reply to  Giovanni

I would say so. They’re pretty much dead to me at this point. I don’t have time in my personal life to wait constantly for them to get it together anymore.

matronator
matronator
4 years ago
Reply to  Giovanni

Yeah, I was so happy to see PES in such a good form this year (haven’t played PES since 2009), but now I am really considering buying FIFA..

Do
Do
4 years ago
Reply to  matronator

pes is miles better then shitty fifa!

Gui Cramer
Gui Cramer
4 years ago
Reply to  matronator

You’ll be disappointed. Licenses won’t make the difference once you get bored with ” symmetric” gameplay, lacking player modes and no ability to edit the missing team licenses. It is best to take a sabbatical of footy games.

Tahir Zaman
Tahir Zaman
4 years ago

They should have released this comment weeks ago. A bit of honesty goes a long way, even if it is admitted to a mistake. Konami don’t even have the support of their die hard fans, many of which continue to buy PES just because they don’t like FIFA, they really… Read more »

Ken Jones
Ken Jones
4 years ago

I have an idea. Instead of using two different methods of updating rosters, just use one. Preferably the better one (live updates) that every other sports game on the market uses. Its not that complicated, release the live update, let us download it, then let us save it, problem solved.… Read more »

Kahn
Kahn
4 years ago

Fixing Goalkeeper reactions and referees seems to be no topic anymore. Even it was promised. Poor Konami is continueing ruining the game by mocking the customers. Only a few days of transfers [….] but distributions take weeks for testing? For an Edit file everyone could create but not with the… Read more »

Gui Cramer
Gui Cramer
4 years ago
Reply to  Kahn

Goalkeeper reactions are fine. The treshhold for them to parry or keep balls is the issue. Referees really need work, they’ve been a problem for eons now and even when clearing the goalie and being taken out by them, at most a yellow card is given. The biggest issue comes… Read more »

Kahn
Kahn
4 years ago
Reply to  Gui Cramer

“Goalkeeper reactions are fine.” If you tallk about high shots it is true. But slow flat shot especially with R2 pass goalkeepers just less then a meter away from their position. This is the reason why every goal of the A.I. is a flat shot. They almost never catch high… Read more »

Freddy Castillo
Freddy Castillo
4 years ago
Reply to  Kahn

Offline GKs are fine. For me there are a lot of more important issues such as lack of offline content. Specially for ML. It‘s better but not enough.

NERAZZURRI
NERAZZURRI
4 years ago

i am suspecting all this is to drive FIFA ex-fans and PES buyers into trying this MyClub thing by screwing the popular “most time consuming mode Master league”. also i cant see why they haven’t included full roster update when you were able to include that up to 30th Aug,… Read more »

Tahir Zaman
Tahir Zaman
4 years ago
Reply to  NERAZZURRI

Interesting theory. I completely agree. They seem to have put in a lot of effort in some areas making PES 2016 into a good game. But it won’t be a great game like PES 5/6 because they refuse to sort out key areas of gameplay. -Free Kicks It wasn’t broke,… Read more »

Do
Do
4 years ago
Reply to  Tahir Zaman

gameplay is awesome. come on. stop talking shit. go to play kiddy fifa 16. that game sucks so much. if you compare fifa 16 with pes 2016. pes is so much better

Tahir Zaman
Tahir Zaman
4 years ago
Reply to  Do

Did I mention FIFA?

Do
Do
4 years ago
Reply to  Tahir Zaman

no, but you talking shit. enjoy the superb gameplay of pes 2016! people that complain. that are fucking noobs

Tahir Zaman
Tahir Zaman
4 years ago
Reply to  Do

I’ve been playing pro since ISS 98. One of the reasons it was better than FIFA was that you couldn’t curl a shot into the corner every time. A bit like the R2 shot at present. Also you didn’t have silly lines for free kicks, like FIFA. I’m complaining about… Read more »

Do
Do
4 years ago
Reply to  Tahir Zaman

r2 control shot in the 16 meters is most of the times a goal, but thats in reallife also. if the shot has enough power and are deep in the corner its a goal. outside the 16 its a lot more difficult. and about long passes its bullshit. if you… Read more »

Tahir Zaman
Tahir Zaman
4 years ago
Reply to  Do

I’ve not had an issue with crosses. The R2 Shot You’re right “if the shot has enough power and are deep in the corner its a goal” Here’s the problem though. I’m a goalkeeper myself. If the striker goes for placement instead of power, I’m making an easy save unless… Read more »

Do
Do
4 years ago
Reply to  Tahir Zaman

yeah, but i have seen very nice saves from my keeper. and that goal from muller that change from direction mate. what is youre gamertag? i will add you then.

Tahir Zaman
Tahir Zaman
4 years ago
Reply to  Do

Tazinio

Do
Do
4 years ago
Reply to  Tahir Zaman

i sent you an invite. my gamertag is: champions1980

Do
Do
4 years ago
Reply to  Tahir Zaman

you play the game on ps4? so give me youre gamertag i add you. you can demonstrate me how easy you can score against me. i think not

Do
Do
4 years ago
Reply to  Tahir Zaman

i agree with that dots at the free kicks. thats so 80`s! but however score a free kick its more difficult then in kiddie fifa 16!

Tito Ortiz
Tito Ortiz
4 years ago

There is a blog in Brazil (Premier Division FC) that has been saying that PES2016 is the last one! The owner of this blog hates Asim Tanvir and I don’t know why but the point is I’m starting to believe on him. Konami is destroying the game we love and… Read more »

Holy Ghost
Holy Ghost
4 years ago
Reply to  Tito Ortiz

That’s ridiculous.. You can’t judge someone based on an opinion of another person., see for yourself.. Now ive had my gripe with people before.. But i must defend Asim here.. To the best of my knowledge hes been honest & respectful.. Do the knowledge then the wisdom..!!

Tito Ortiz
Tito Ortiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Holy Ghost

Holy Ghost, Holly Shit! who is judging who? You can defend whoever you want! I just said there is a guy in Brazil (that hates Asim and I don’t know his reasons) is saying that PES 2016 is the last one! There is no PES team, there is no money,… Read more »

Holy Ghost
Holy Ghost
4 years ago
Reply to  Tito Ortiz

I agree with most of what you said.. I actually play fifa at the moment due to the below par game pes have released.. But I didn’t see the relevance of mentioning Asim..?? If u mentioned Adam Bhatti i would understand.. It looked like a shady blow but if thats… Read more »

Tito Ortiz
Tito Ortiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Holy Ghost

People say Asim was a FIFA fan then Adam left the blog to work in Konami and Asim started here but people say terrible things about Asim.. I just agree Bhatti is the worst whatever manager ever, but about Asim I cannot say anything.. But Bhatti is a disgrace!

Tahir Zaman
Tahir Zaman
4 years ago
Reply to  Tito Ortiz

To be fair, despite major flaws, PES 2015 and 2016 have been the best since the PS2 days. So I think Adam’s involvement has been more positive than negative. I think Konami have produced a good game here but consistently shoot themselves in the foot after release. The frustrating thing… Read more »

Caniggia
4 years ago
Reply to  Tito Ortiz

I believe the brazilian blog. It has top credability…

Henryclay1844
Henryclay1844
4 years ago

Haven’t played a proper game since FIFA came out, I tried, but not being able to have proper rosters is just amateur hour. I cannot believe the review scores this game was given. Shameful.

Tahir Zaman
Tahir Zaman
4 years ago
Reply to  Henryclay1844

Even Fifa players are saying how bad Fifa is this year, so I wouldn’t go that far.

info0
info0
4 years ago
Reply to  Tahir Zaman

Cause they can’t play it like they used to and cannot accept the changes. No more pace whoring and having to actually THINK make them say rubbish. FIFA 16 moved from being arcade to another spectrum no one expected. Simulation…

jim papas
jim papas
4 years ago

Asim Tanvir i believe that a part of konami’s problem has to do with you ,and with the term you i mean all the same type sites and posters that every year give the credit to this staff without any basic effort to the main core of the game. how… Read more »

pantherJOE99
pantherJOE99
4 years ago
Reply to  jim papas

Sorry, but that is literally mental, blaming Asim for this nonsense. He found the gameplay to be awesome at E3, playing a few games from an unfinished code. how the hell was he supposed to predict that this would happen ? He was giving the community feedback on what he… Read more »

jim papas
jim papas
4 years ago
Reply to  pantherJOE99

and he find in that copy the keepers excelent or the reaction of the players good? we speak for asiim when he is not here to be part on that and when i said that by term you i mean ALL the pre game testers not only asim. you desagree… Read more »

Mel Brennan
Mel Brennan
4 years ago
Reply to  pantherJOE99

“… [He] found the gameplay to be awesome at E3, playing a few games from an unfinished code…the game has turned out to be really bad…” I don’t know if you are aware of how many years in a row we’ve heard that exact sentiment.

Caniggia
4 years ago

I believe a lot of people are enjoying this game, I’m one of them. Transfer update aside. It is a brilliant game for me on manual and online. Metascore shows that PES 2016 are doing really well.

NERAZZURRI
NERAZZURRI
4 years ago
Reply to  Caniggia

why do you have to remind a lot of people that they enjoy their game? User score should be more important to the “Brand Manager” and to you, thats if you care. (7.2 is a grade for ok game) 527 review > 49 Critics also the manual argument just make… Read more »

Caniggia
4 years ago
Reply to  NERAZZURRI

Thanks for sharing your frustrated reply with me. The manual players I’ve met play a much better game of football than any of the assisted players I ever met. For auto players it’s all about finding easy ways to score, angles to score from, ways to exploit attributes and AI… Read more »

Tahir Zaman
Tahir Zaman
4 years ago
Reply to  Caniggia

How much do passing and shooting stats affect the game when playing manual?
Level 1 feel way too automated, especially for the top players in the game.
Is manual the other extreme? Would the passing of 90+ be the same as a 70?

Ibrahim
Ibrahim
4 years ago

This doesn’t make sense, Felipe Melo and Alex Telles is missing from Galatasaray but are not in Inter Milan. Kevin Grosskreutz from Dortmund to Galatasaray was a transfer that was last second but he is in Galatasaray.

M.CJC
M.CJC
4 years ago

Can they also fix the gameplay issues?
– Goalkeepers
– easy troughpasses

Do
Do
4 years ago
Reply to  M.CJC

hey m.cjc beetje raar dat je mij zomaar geblokt hebt op ps4. waarom? stuurde je een bericht maar geen antwoord. erg vaag

bestlloyd
bestlloyd
4 years ago

Asim I would like to say there is no way you are to blame for all this.But would you please have a word with ADAM about the things us PES fans wante,we don’t care about new things like new boots we would father have more fixes,like more stadiums.Better keepers.And for… Read more »

Tahir Zaman
Tahir Zaman
4 years ago
Reply to  bestlloyd

I’m sure they have many discussions, which they cannot share for obvious reasons.

Ricardo Santos
Ricardo Santos
4 years ago
Reply to  bestlloyd

Konami needs unlock the weather, the time and stadium for the Leagues, Tournaments, Master League, Become A Legend and Cups. Almost 100% of the matches happen at night. It’s frustrating. In some regions the majority of matches take place during the day with sun. The shadows on the grass could… Read more »

bestlloyd
bestlloyd
4 years ago
Reply to  Ricardo Santos

Great idea,But will thay listen. I’v played league mode for years,but this is the first time I can remember, where we’v had night games night after night.Just hope like a lot of other people thay change it.

Valentin Ionita
Valentin Ionita
4 years ago

doesn’t sound like an apology to me. this jibberish is just a long way to say that they screwed up ,but only with half-mouth. sound like something that bhatti has written. guy never knows when to take the blame for his actions. eighter way I see nothing about: -fixing horrible… Read more »

Do
Do
4 years ago

haha, scripting? fifa is scripting mate! and goalgeepers are fine in pes. a control shot well placed in the box is in reallife also a goal!

Valentin Ionita
Valentin Ionita
4 years ago
Reply to  Do

noobs be tripping.

Freddy Castillo
Freddy Castillo
4 years ago

Yeah, the scripting is poorly balanced this year.

Aggaz
Aggaz
4 years ago

why cant keepers save them shot that go across there bodies everytime the CPU shoots across the keeper its a goal

Aggaz
Aggaz
4 years ago

Bhatti Boy and the team need sacking would love to see 2K games take over PES or even start there own soccer francies

Machida
Machida
4 years ago

PES 2016 is the last one, guys! Wake up! Konami has destroyed PES! It’s such a pitty!

Machida
Machida
4 years ago

I hope Sony or 2k or another studio take over this franchise!

Do
Do
4 years ago
Reply to  Machida

i hope not! because gameplay is awesome!

Ali
Ali
4 years ago

What’s going on with Konami? that’s the question! who’s in charge?
I’ve been playing this series since the first ever football game created by Konami.
and there have been a lot of mistakes before BUT THIS ONE “PES 2016” IS THE BIGGEST IN YOUR HISTORY KONAMI.

M.CJC
M.CJC
4 years ago

Sometimes its like fifa 15. High troughballs and easy crosspasses on the head are dominate pes 2016. This are more important issues than those transfers. Hopelijk they fix this soon.

Do
Do
4 years ago
Reply to  M.CJC

haha, easy crosspasses? you don`t score many goals against me with crossballs. i score a lot against you, because you don`t defending very well. after that you blocked me on youre friendlist?;-)

BryanSonic
BryanSonic
4 years ago

this is actually pretty comical now. i mean one man and his dog could have fixed this in half a day. sounds to me like they didn’t want to pay anymore money to the console companies to release another patch. So instead of fixing the issue, they’d rather keep their… Read more »

Josh Yang
Josh Yang
4 years ago

I gave up and bought Fifa 16 yesterday. I still love PES, but it’s exhausting to just wanna play a proper game of Master League with the latest team roster. I don’t give a damn with your explanation, nor do I accept your apology. Screwing us loyal fans multiple times… Read more »

Sibii Ronald
Sibii Ronald
4 years ago

hello konami. wake up and fix the online mode, gameplay, update players stats and transfers. this are important not boots, stadium…! i play pes from iss serie but gameplay of pes 2016 its worst than pes 2 and 3!!!

M.CJC
M.CJC
4 years ago

What I don’t understand is why they use the foxengine so poorly. It’s clear that the foxengine is so much powerfull than EA’s ignite engine but they are doing nothing with it. Yes they create a fluent gameplay and very realistic playermodels but that is not enough. Just make the… Read more »

Zado316
Zado316
4 years ago

This is what happens when the CEO of Konami starts scaling down investment on triple A games,( firing staff to save costs). The Pes team ( both Tokyo & UK) don’t have enough staff to work on all the features they need to work on. How is a small team… Read more »

Gui Cramer
Gui Cramer
4 years ago

Goalkeeper reactions are fine. They react after a shot is taken. What needs addressing is the treshhold for shots to be sparred or handled. Defensive AI leaves the central defenders extremely exposed and is a major source of exploit. Lastly, Konami can hire me for a discounted contractor rate and… Read more »

Justin
Justin
4 years ago

Gui gamer and zado – very well said From the goal keepers perspective i would say that the majority of the problem is when the keeper parrys a weak shot instead of catching it. However there are other occasional incidents such as when I once lobbed the keeper and the… Read more »

Zado316
Zado316
4 years ago
Reply to  Justin

I hear the lead designer of the Fox Engine also left the company along with Kojima. Adam Bhatti keeps saying the Pes Team ( Tokyo & UK) are still learning to use the Fox Engine and Adapt it for Pes yet Konami goes ahead and lets him go….. Either Adam… Read more »

M.CJC
M.CJC
4 years ago
Reply to  Justin

You’re totally right man. There are to many issues in this game. when i play it feels like the game isn’t finished.

Justin
Justin
4 years ago

Ps – cursor switching needs fixing – it’s inconsistent especially on 4 player mode

Freddy Castillo
Freddy Castillo
4 years ago

Well, at least they seem careful about how we feel this time. Hope they could give us something more than GPS as an apologize for once.

bestlloyd
bestlloyd
4 years ago

Come on ADAM it’s the 16 today this article kame out on the 2 Can’t you give us a bit more news. I think the fans deserve that don’t you.