A few days after the release of PES 2016’s messed up severely delayed data pack, Konami/the PES team has today come out with an official statement around the issue.
The message goes into a little bit of detail (not too much) about the problems and why they happened, but more importantly the team has apologised to PES fans around the world.
It’s an interesting read, especially in regards to how their update/data systems work, but (repeating myself here) it’s not how a modern video game company producing a sports game should work. Good to know they’re going to be working on fixing it though before anything else is released. Bad news, there’s no date for a potential fix.
Anyway, the statement it full…
Hi PES Fans,
There has been an issue with the latest Data Pack released October 29th, and we wanted to reach out to our fans to let you know just how we’re dealing with this current situation.
Currently the roster update for offline play which impacts Master League, competitions and edit mode is not complete, missing the final few days of transfers. The online modes, such as ranked matches, myClub and exhibition mode using Live Updates are up to date, as they were from October 2nd – and they remain unaffected.
We’ve received many questions regarding why offline and online are unique, and right now I wanted to explain that the systems being used for online updates are separated from offline due to the process we need to go through, with patch data including lists that needs to be checked internally and externally and may take weeks before the distribution.
The roster issue is a priority for us to correct ASAP, but will take some weeks unfortunately. We had planned a second Data Pack for end of November which was set to include a new stadium for PS4 and Xbox One, the Maracana. However, we will not release this Data Pack without including a fix for the offline roster issue.
Right now we have removed the planned Data Pack from our schedule so we can implement the fix required. We will then go through the process to get it out as soon as possible. We’ll update the fans on our official social channels as soon as we have information on this.
The extra time needed will also be used to add more content into the game that wasn’t planned at this stage, such as new kits and boots, as well as any other content the time allows. We’ll provide a list of extra content once set. We appreciate this doesn’t suddenly make this situation better, but we do want to show desire to make good on the situation for the fans.
We also want to take the opportunity to sincerely apologise to those fans affected by this issue. It’s frustrating for the fans, and for the team making the game. We assure everyone that we have learnt from this situation, and confirm designs to improve situations like these are currently being considered for future products.
Thanks for your continued support, and sorry once again,
PES Team
Did they just make the situation worse by removing the end of November update and giving no deadline to fix this ? do we really need extra kits when the community is filled with them ? or freaking boots we only see during replay !!! update the stats & the… Read more »
Yeah, I was so happy to see PES in such a good form this year (haven’t played PES since 2009), but now I am really considering buying FIFA..
You’ll be disappointed. Licenses won’t make the difference once you get bored with ” symmetric” gameplay, lacking player modes and no ability to edit the missing team licenses. It is best to take a sabbatical of footy games.
pes is miles better then shitty fifa!
I would say so. They’re pretty much dead to me at this point. I don’t have time in my personal life to wait constantly for them to get it together anymore.
They should have released this comment weeks ago. A bit of honesty goes a long way, even if it is admitted to a mistake. Konami don’t even have the support of their die hard fans, many of which continue to buy PES just because they don’t like FIFA, they really… Read more »
I have an idea. Instead of using two different methods of updating rosters, just use one. Preferably the better one (live updates) that every other sports game on the market uses. Its not that complicated, release the live update, let us download it, then let us save it, problem solved.… Read more »
Fixing Goalkeeper reactions and referees seems to be no topic anymore. Even it was promised. Poor Konami is continueing ruining the game by mocking the customers. Only a few days of transfers [….] but distributions take weeks for testing? For an Edit file everyone could create but not with the… Read more »
Offline GKs are fine. For me there are a lot of more important issues such as lack of offline content. Specially for ML. It‘s better but not enough.
Goalkeeper reactions are fine. The treshhold for them to parry or keep balls is the issue. Referees really need work, they’ve been a problem for eons now and even when clearing the goalie and being taken out by them, at most a yellow card is given. The biggest issue comes… Read more »
“Goalkeeper reactions are fine.” If you tallk about high shots it is true. But slow flat shot especially with R2 pass goalkeepers just less then a meter away from their position. This is the reason why every goal of the A.I. is a flat shot. They almost never catch high… Read more »
i am suspecting all this is to drive FIFA ex-fans and PES buyers into trying this MyClub thing by screwing the popular “most time consuming mode Master league”. also i cant see why they haven’t included full roster update when you were able to include that up to 30th Aug,… Read more »
Interesting theory. I completely agree. They seem to have put in a lot of effort in some areas making PES 2016 into a good game. But it won’t be a great game like PES 5/6 because they refuse to sort out key areas of gameplay. -Free Kicks It wasn’t broke,… Read more »
gameplay is awesome. come on. stop talking shit. go to play kiddy fifa 16. that game sucks so much. if you compare fifa 16 with pes 2016. pes is so much better
Did I mention FIFA?
no, but you talking shit. enjoy the superb gameplay of pes 2016! people that complain. that are fucking noobs
I’ve been playing pro since ISS 98. One of the reasons it was better than FIFA was that you couldn’t curl a shot into the corner every time. A bit like the R2 shot at present. Also you didn’t have silly lines for free kicks, like FIFA. I’m complaining about… Read more »
i agree with that dots at the free kicks. thats so 80`s! but however score a free kick its more difficult then in kiddie fifa 16!
you play the game on ps4? so give me youre gamertag i add you. you can demonstrate me how easy you can score against me. i think not
r2 control shot in the 16 meters is most of the times a goal, but thats in reallife also. if the shot has enough power and are deep in the corner its a goal. outside the 16 its a lot more difficult. and about long passes its bullshit. if you… Read more »
I’ve not had an issue with crosses. The R2 Shot You’re right “if the shot has enough power and are deep in the corner its a goal” Here’s the problem though. I’m a goalkeeper myself. If the striker goes for placement instead of power, I’m making an easy save unless… Read more »
yeah, but i have seen very nice saves from my keeper. and that goal from muller that change from direction mate. what is youre gamertag? i will add you then.
Tazinio
i sent you an invite. my gamertag is: champions1980
There is a blog in Brazil (Premier Division FC) that has been saying that PES2016 is the last one! The owner of this blog hates Asim Tanvir and I don’t know why but the point is I’m starting to believe on him. Konami is destroying the game we love and… Read more »
I believe the brazilian blog. It has top credability…
That’s ridiculous.. You can’t judge someone based on an opinion of another person., see for yourself.. Now ive had my gripe with people before.. But i must defend Asim here.. To the best of my knowledge hes been honest & respectful.. Do the knowledge then the wisdom..!!
Holy Ghost, Holly Shit! who is judging who? You can defend whoever you want! I just said there is a guy in Brazil (that hates Asim and I don’t know his reasons) is saying that PES 2016 is the last one! There is no PES team, there is no money,… Read more »
I agree with most of what you said.. I actually play fifa at the moment due to the below par game pes have released.. But I didn’t see the relevance of mentioning Asim..?? If u mentioned Adam Bhatti i would understand.. It looked like a shady blow but if thats… Read more »
People say Asim was a FIFA fan then Adam left the blog to work in Konami and Asim started here but people say terrible things about Asim.. I just agree Bhatti is the worst whatever manager ever, but about Asim I cannot say anything.. But Bhatti is a disgrace!
To be fair, despite major flaws, PES 2015 and 2016 have been the best since the PS2 days. So I think Adam’s involvement has been more positive than negative. I think Konami have produced a good game here but consistently shoot themselves in the foot after release. The frustrating thing… Read more »
Haven’t played a proper game since FIFA came out, I tried, but not being able to have proper rosters is just amateur hour. I cannot believe the review scores this game was given. Shameful.
Even Fifa players are saying how bad Fifa is this year, so I wouldn’t go that far.
Cause they can’t play it like they used to and cannot accept the changes. No more pace whoring and having to actually THINK make them say rubbish. FIFA 16 moved from being arcade to another spectrum no one expected. Simulation…
Asim Tanvir i believe that a part of konami’s problem has to do with you ,and with the term you i mean all the same type sites and posters that every year give the credit to this staff without any basic effort to the main core of the game. how… Read more »
Sorry, but that is literally mental, blaming Asim for this nonsense. He found the gameplay to be awesome at E3, playing a few games from an unfinished code. how the hell was he supposed to predict that this would happen ? He was giving the community feedback on what he… Read more »
“… [He] found the gameplay to be awesome at E3, playing a few games from an unfinished code…the game has turned out to be really bad…” I don’t know if you are aware of how many years in a row we’ve heard that exact sentiment.
and he find in that copy the keepers excelent or the reaction of the players good? we speak for asiim when he is not here to be part on that and when i said that by term you i mean ALL the pre game testers not only asim. you desagree… Read more »
I believe a lot of people are enjoying this game, I’m one of them. Transfer update aside. It is a brilliant game for me on manual and online. Metascore shows that PES 2016 are doing really well.
why do you have to remind a lot of people that they enjoy their game? User score should be more important to the “Brand Manager” and to you, thats if you care. (7.2 is a grade for ok game) 527 review > 49 Critics also the manual argument just make… Read more »
Thanks for sharing your frustrated reply with me. The manual players I’ve met play a much better game of football than any of the assisted players I ever met. For auto players it’s all about finding easy ways to score, angles to score from, ways to exploit attributes and AI… Read more »
How much do passing and shooting stats affect the game when playing manual?
Level 1 feel way too automated, especially for the top players in the game.
Is manual the other extreme? Would the passing of 90+ be the same as a 70?
This doesn’t make sense, Felipe Melo and Alex Telles is missing from Galatasaray but are not in Inter Milan. Kevin Grosskreutz from Dortmund to Galatasaray was a transfer that was last second but he is in Galatasaray.
Can they also fix the gameplay issues?
– Goalkeepers
– easy troughpasses
hey m.cjc beetje raar dat je mij zomaar geblokt hebt op ps4. waarom? stuurde je een bericht maar geen antwoord. erg vaag
Asim I would like to say there is no way you are to blame for all this.But would you please have a word with ADAM about the things us PES fans wante,we don’t care about new things like new boots we would father have more fixes,like more stadiums.Better keepers.And for… Read more »
Konami needs unlock the weather, the time and stadium for the Leagues, Tournaments, Master League, Become A Legend and Cups. Almost 100% of the matches happen at night. It’s frustrating. In some regions the majority of matches take place during the day with sun. The shadows on the grass could… Read more »
Great idea,But will thay listen. I’v played league mode for years,but this is the first time I can remember, where we’v had night games night after night.Just hope like a lot of other people thay change it.
I’m sure they have many discussions, which they cannot share for obvious reasons.
doesn’t sound like an apology to me. this jibberish is just a long way to say that they screwed up ,but only with half-mouth. sound like something that bhatti has written. guy never knows when to take the blame for his actions. eighter way I see nothing about: -fixing horrible… Read more »
Yeah, the scripting is poorly balanced this year.
haha, scripting? fifa is scripting mate! and goalgeepers are fine in pes. a control shot well placed in the box is in reallife also a goal!
noobs be tripping.
why cant keepers save them shot that go across there bodies everytime the CPU shoots across the keeper its a goal
Bhatti Boy and the team need sacking would love to see 2K games take over PES or even start there own soccer francies
PES 2016 is the last one, guys! Wake up! Konami has destroyed PES! It’s such a pitty!
I hope Sony or 2k or another studio take over this franchise!
i hope not! because gameplay is awesome!
What’s going on with Konami? that’s the question! who’s in charge?
I’ve been playing this series since the first ever football game created by Konami.
and there have been a lot of mistakes before BUT THIS ONE “PES 2016” IS THE BIGGEST IN YOUR HISTORY KONAMI.
Sometimes its like fifa 15. High troughballs and easy crosspasses on the head are dominate pes 2016. This are more important issues than those transfers. Hopelijk they fix this soon.
haha, easy crosspasses? you don`t score many goals against me with crossballs. i score a lot against you, because you don`t defending very well. after that you blocked me on youre friendlist?;-)
this is actually pretty comical now. i mean one man and his dog could have fixed this in half a day. sounds to me like they didn’t want to pay anymore money to the console companies to release another patch. So instead of fixing the issue, they’d rather keep their… Read more »
I gave up and bought Fifa 16 yesterday. I still love PES, but it’s exhausting to just wanna play a proper game of Master League with the latest team roster. I don’t give a damn with your explanation, nor do I accept your apology. Screwing us loyal fans multiple times… Read more »
hello konami. wake up and fix the online mode, gameplay, update players stats and transfers. this are important not boots, stadium…! i play pes from iss serie but gameplay of pes 2016 its worst than pes 2 and 3!!!
What I don’t understand is why they use the foxengine so poorly. It’s clear that the foxengine is so much powerfull than EA’s ignite engine but they are doing nothing with it. Yes they create a fluent gameplay and very realistic playermodels but that is not enough. Just make the… Read more »
This is what happens when the CEO of Konami starts scaling down investment on triple A games,( firing staff to save costs). The Pes team ( both Tokyo & UK) don’t have enough staff to work on all the features they need to work on. How is a small team… Read more »
Goalkeeper reactions are fine. They react after a shot is taken. What needs addressing is the treshhold for shots to be sparred or handled. Defensive AI leaves the central defenders extremely exposed and is a major source of exploit. Lastly, Konami can hire me for a discounted contractor rate and… Read more »
Gui gamer and zado – very well said From the goal keepers perspective i would say that the majority of the problem is when the keeper parrys a weak shot instead of catching it. However there are other occasional incidents such as when I once lobbed the keeper and the… Read more »
You’re totally right man. There are to many issues in this game. when i play it feels like the game isn’t finished.
I hear the lead designer of the Fox Engine also left the company along with Kojima. Adam Bhatti keeps saying the Pes Team ( Tokyo & UK) are still learning to use the Fox Engine and Adapt it for Pes yet Konami goes ahead and lets him go….. Either Adam… Read more »
Ps – cursor switching needs fixing – it’s inconsistent especially on 4 player mode
Well, at least they seem careful about how we feel this time. Hope they could give us something more than GPS as an apologize for once.
Come on ADAM it’s the 16 today this article kame out on the 2 Can’t you give us a bit more news. I think the fans deserve that don’t you.